temperature for me is a game changer! I sleep far better in cold
sleep is fascinating, the glymphatic system let us be refresh every day, ready to know more from you nick! to comment, share, enjoy how we function and what we can do to funcion well trough metabolic health and lifestyle
I wonder what effects there might be from taking medications that affect norepinephrine, like Wellbutrin or Adderall. Or how something like nicotine might act on this system.
Does melatonin or OTC pain relievers (NSAID) also interfere with the process? Oura showed lousy sleep last night but didn’t take naproxen for neck pain. My heart rate variability was very low & resting heart rate 10 bpm higher than normal & only 1 minute of deep sleep (lowest ever).
Judging from your summary, it would seem that supplementation with GABA before bed to enhance NREM sleep may impair the normal glymphatic functions in the brain by suppressing norepinephrine activity, and thereby reduce the clearance of otherwise harmful waste products during NREM sleep cycles. So much for nighttime GABA supplements . . . "It just goes to show you, if it isn't one thing, it's always another!"~ Gilda Radner. ;^)
I have read others, including people claiming to be MDs, that they sleep fewer hours on carnivore. I also believe Ben Bikman claims short sleep hours and suspect he does not eat a lot of junk. I do not know if it is a thing, but have seen several claims.
A lot of high performing academics and intellectuals who know how important sleep is are poor sleepers. I'm not a great sleeper. But there are no data to suggest you need less sleep on a carnivore diet, or any other diet for that matter... at least not to my awareness.
Agree there is no data at this time. But there was no data that Oreos were more effective than statins until recently either. I do not think it is inappropriate to question if "the brain’s deep-cleaning cycle" might be shorter for those who ingest fewer toxins. My sleep has always been variable, but it is shorter on carnivore.
You can speculate... sure. I just wouldn't claim that carnivores need less sleep. It's about who is making the claim and whether it can be backed by data. But if the statement is a question or framed as a possibility/speculation... that's fair.
temperature for me is a game changer! I sleep far better in cold
sleep is fascinating, the glymphatic system let us be refresh every day, ready to know more from you nick! to comment, share, enjoy how we function and what we can do to funcion well trough metabolic health and lifestyle
Thank you Ilaria :)
What is your un-negotiable for sleep well?
Me personally? Dark room. Ideally black-put shades. Below 70F (ideally 66). No eating after ~630pm.
Almost the same!
I wonder what effects there might be from taking medications that affect norepinephrine, like Wellbutrin or Adderall. Or how something like nicotine might act on this system.
Interesting questions... what would you speculate based on their mechanisms of actions and ability (or lack thereof) to cross the blood brain barrier.
Does melatonin or OTC pain relievers (NSAID) also interfere with the process? Oura showed lousy sleep last night but didn’t take naproxen for neck pain. My heart rate variability was very low & resting heart rate 10 bpm higher than normal & only 1 minute of deep sleep (lowest ever).
I can't say for sure... I'd guess not, but I don't know for certain.
Judging from your summary, it would seem that supplementation with GABA before bed to enhance NREM sleep may impair the normal glymphatic functions in the brain by suppressing norepinephrine activity, and thereby reduce the clearance of otherwise harmful waste products during NREM sleep cycles. So much for nighttime GABA supplements . . . "It just goes to show you, if it isn't one thing, it's always another!"~ Gilda Radner. ;^)
It's true zolpidem and benxos acts on GABA-A receptor. But it's unclear if oral GABA supplements cross the blood-brain barrier in appreciable amounts.
"But one leading theory is that sleep is the brain’s deep-cleaning cycle, clearing out metabolic waste that accumulates throughout the day."
Is the fact that Carnivores ingest cleaner food (less metabolic waste) explain why Carnivores require less sleep???????
Don't think that's a thing... no...
I have read others, including people claiming to be MDs, that they sleep fewer hours on carnivore. I also believe Ben Bikman claims short sleep hours and suspect he does not eat a lot of junk. I do not know if it is a thing, but have seen several claims.
A lot of high performing academics and intellectuals who know how important sleep is are poor sleepers. I'm not a great sleeper. But there are no data to suggest you need less sleep on a carnivore diet, or any other diet for that matter... at least not to my awareness.
Agree there is no data at this time. But there was no data that Oreos were more effective than statins until recently either. I do not think it is inappropriate to question if "the brain’s deep-cleaning cycle" might be shorter for those who ingest fewer toxins. My sleep has always been variable, but it is shorter on carnivore.
You can speculate... sure. I just wouldn't claim that carnivores need less sleep. It's about who is making the claim and whether it can be backed by data. But if the statement is a question or framed as a possibility/speculation... that's fair.